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In the Studio with Shane & Shane Part 2

In the Studio with Shane & Shane Part 2

Misty Phillip sits down with musicians and worship leaders Shane and Shane in this two-part episode of the By His Grace podcast. Shane and Shane’s music has deeply affected Misty’s walk with the Lord. It was a huge treat to sit down with them in their studio in Dallas earlier this year to record the stories behind their worship music. In this episode we discuss the Worship Initiative, a subscription-based membership community to equip the church, and it’s musicians. We talk about faith and obedience. 

Shane Everitt

“When we when we originally started the Worship Initiative we just wanted to equip the church.”

“Doing a songwriting class with a small university down on the south side of town here for a few years and I think in that process we kind a realized there’s a there’s a pretty deep need.”

“The younger generation in the church we’re pretty scripturally illiterate and so I think that was kind of a burden for us.”

“There’s a lack of not just like Biblical literacy, but like understanding of who Jesus is.”

“We wrapped the songs in scripture we write devotionals.”

“We wanted to see people love the Lord.”

“Take the vocation of of leading songs serious. Like to try  and put that the weight of the mantle of the position on the shoulders of people. We don’t need song leaders we need pastors to put put language teach people how to pray through song, and that’s really what we’ll do you wanna do now. We want the body to be healthy.”

“We want the word of Christ to dwell richly in the bride.”

Psalm 2 “It is such a good reminder every time you know that the Lord is our shepherd and we don’t have to want.”

Shane Barnard

“I’ve been singing a song that we it’s always kind of the newest songs because I was your favorite but you can’t really get this on Spotify we just released a video on YouTube it’s a song and I wrote kind of with the with the church of the Ukraine in mind about fighting a battle that gods already won. We don’t know what you’re doing but we know what you’ve done”

What is the Lord speaking to you?

“My purpose is a person, and His name is Jesus.”

“Being faithful is what He wants us to do.”

“It is at just living a life of faithfulness tday by day versus finding my value and the pursuit of this or that. All of those things are real but they’re just real bad gods, not necessarily wrong, but they don’t save you or anyone else.”

“In God’s billions of thoughts and all the billions of things he’s orchestrating it one moment the best way for me to glorify God may look like that.”

“Okay you’re gonna go hard for a few years and you’re gonna be upside down cross and that’s the best way for me to get glory, but it’s not just got to get the glory, but that’s it for your ultimate joy.”

“Trust in a good God and that’s why it’s it’s okay and just lean into the thought that God‘s in control and he is good. ”

“it’s all where we find our value, you know, it’s like and if my value in my worth is found in Jesus I am completely free to lay down my life with no expectation of return.”

Scripture Reference

“Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God”. – Colossians 3:16 ESV

John 21 ESV

Jesus Appears to Seven Disciples

21 After this Jesus revealed himself again to the disciples by the Sea of Tiberias, and he revealed himself in this way. Simon Peter, Thomas (called the Twin), Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two others of his disciples were together. Simon Peter said to them, “I am going fishing.” They said to him, “We will go with you.” They went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing.

Just as day was breaking, Jesus stood on the shore; yet the disciples did not know that it was Jesus. Jesus said to them, “Children, do you have any fish?” They answered him, “No.” He said to them, “Cast the net on the right side of the boat, and you will find some.” So they cast it, and now they were not able to haul it in, because of the quantity of fish. That disciple whom Jesus loved therefore said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on his outer garment, for he was stripped for work, and threw himself into the sea. The other disciples came in the boat, dragging the net full of fish, for they were not far from the land, but about a hundred yards[a] off.

When they got out on land, they saw a charcoal fire in place, with fish laid out on it, and bread. 10 Jesus said to them, “Bring some of the fish that you have just caught.” 11 So Simon Peter went aboard and hauled the net ashore, full of large fish, 153 of them. And although there were so many, the net was not torn. 12 Jesus said to them, “Come and have breakfast.” Now none of the disciples dared ask him, “Who are you?” They knew it was the Lord. 13 Jesus came and took the bread and gave it to them, and so with the fish. 14 This was now the third time that Jesus was revealed to the disciples after he was raised from the dead.

Jesus and Peter

15 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.” 16 He said to him a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.”17 He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?”Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep. 18 Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young, you used to dress yourself and walk wherever you wanted, but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will dress you and carry you where you do not want to go.”19 (This he said to show by what kind of death he was to glorify God.) And after saying this he said to him, “Follow me.”

Jesus and the Beloved Apostle

20 Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them, the one who also had leaned back against him during the supper and had said, “Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?” 21 When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, “Lord, what about this man?” 22 Jesus said to him, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!”23 So the saying spread abroad among the brothers[b] that this disciple was not to die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?”

24 This is the disciple who is bearing witness about these things, and who has written these things, and we know that his testimony is true.

25 Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. 


Psalms, Hymns, and Spiritual Songs

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In the Studio with Shane & Shane

In the Studio with Shane & Shane

Misty Phillip sits down with musicians and worship leaders Shane and Shane in this two-part episode of the By His Grace podcast. Shane and Shane’s music has deeply affected Misty’s walk with the Lord. It was a huge treat to sit down with them in their studio in Dallas earlier this year to record the stories behind their worship music. The band consists of Shane Barnard (vocals, acoustic guitar) and Shane Everett (vocals). We go behind the music to discuss their upbringings, testimonies, and how faith has impacted their journey. 

Shane Barnard

Shane Barnard talks about growing up on the West coast with a wild gold-digging adventurous cowboy with a gold pan and a gun. His mom was catholic, and they occasionally attended church. They migrate from California to Texas. In the eighth grade, he was on the roof of his house in West Texas, where the stars filled the sky. He looked up and encountered God, who captivated his heart. Shane compares the experience to Psalm 8. 

Upon sneaking into a Bible church to play basketball, he heard it’s a simple gospel that God loves him regardless of what he’d done and that he could be forgiven where he gave his life to the Lord. One day he picked up a guitar and began leading small groups singing and praying to God. Shane’s entire family came to Christ. After years of sharing the gospel, at 65 years old, the scales fell off his Father’s eyes, and he became a believer.

Shane Everitt

Shane Everitt is Texas, born and bred. His Grandfather was a very religious deacon in a Baptist church, and his Father rebelled. Shane grew up with a Father in rebellion, but his Grandfather always made him go to summer camp each year. Every year Shane got baptized but never had a saving knowledge of Jesus. He grew up around the church, but it wasn’t until college that he had a transforming relationship with Jesus. He learned he could sing by joining the choir to fulfill a needed art credit. 

The Shane’s met in college at Texas A&M. Everritt sang in bars throughout college to make ends meet. One night he was sitting at the end of the stage waiting to be paid when the lights came on. Under the neon, it looked one way, but when the lights came on, the reality of the bar was illuminated. The Lord used this image to reveal the condition of his heart, and Shane began weeping uncontrollably. The next day, he went to church, where he gave his life to Christ and was radically transformed. The following Sunday, he sang in the choir; the rest was history.

We discuss the creative process and how they’ve defined their roles. Barnard turned to the psalms to be a balm for his soul. Everitt does the management and business side. 

Scripture Reference

“O Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth!

You have set your glory above the heavens. Out of the mouth of babies and infants, you have established strength because of your foes, to still the enemy and the avenger. When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon, and the stars, which you have set in place, what is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him? Yet you have made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor. You have given him dominion over the works of your hands; you have put all things under his feet, all sheep and oxen, and also the beasts of the field, the birds of the heavens, and the fish of the sea, whatever passes along the paths of the seas. O Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth!” – Psalm 8 ESV


Frances Jane van Alstyne Crosby was born on March 24, 1820, and died on February 12, 1915. More commonly known as Fanny J. Crosby, she was an American mission worker, poet, lyricist, and composer. She was a prolific hymnist, writing more than 8,000 hymns and songs.

Psalms, Hymns, and Spiritual Songs

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Amanda Pittman: Stand in Confidence

Amanda Pittman: Stand in Confidence

Do you struggle to walk in confidence? In this episode of By His Grace, Misty Phillip sits down with Amanda Pittman to discuss exactly that. Anxiety, doubt and fear plague women of all ages, but especially young girls these days. Amanda discusses how to walk with God in strength and confidence to fulfil all that God has in store for us.

Key Takeaways

“The more I established my confidence in Christ, the stronger my voice became.”

“God sat me down and said I love you, not for the things that you do for me, I just love you.”

“If God will care for the lilies of the fields and the birds he will care for me.”

4 Components of Confidence

• Clarity – Embrace their identity and define their design

• Connection – Connect with God and connect with others

• Competency – Develop their ability and expand their capacity

• Conviction – Know their responsibility and use their authority

“The concept of this book (Stand in Confidence) is being prepared to stand before God and give an account of what you did.”

Amanda Pittman

Amanda Pittman is a wife and mother, author, speaker, and entrepreneur. She is the founder of Confident Woman Co., a ministry that equips women to stand confidently upon the finished work of Jesus. Through Confident Woman Co., Amanda hosts retreats, conferences, online events, podcasts, videos and more. She is the author of four books including Stand in Confidence (Sept. 2022). Amanda and Michael Pittman live in Dallas with their children Elijah and Lily.


Stand in Confidence will be the first title published under the Esther Press imprint (David C Cook),
which equips women to walk courageously in the light of God’s truth.


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Shayna Rattler: Successfully Navigate the Seasons of Life

Shayna Rattler: Successfully Navigate the Seasons of Life

Are you in a season of transition? Do you find yourself struggling to adjust to this new season? You are not alone, my friend. In this episode of By His Grace, Misty Phillip discusses successfully navigating the transitions in life with Shayna Rattler. Whether you are adjusting to getting your kids back in school, dropping your kids off at college and facing an empty nest, job changes, or taking care of elderly parents, the transition can be challenging. 

Key Takeaways

“A God Shift is the moment you unlock your Kingdom authority; you collide with God’s purpose and move into greater destiny.”

“Get in alignment with God’s purpose.”

“God has work for each of us to do!”

“Assignment – who you help”

“Calling – how you help them”

“Purpose – the impact that you have with those people”

“Destiny – where it takes you”

“God uses a shift to get our attention! What does God want us to do and see?”


“The ABC’s to Unlock Heaven

A – Align to his word, His will, and His ways

B – Belief we have to believe He is willing, and He will do it for us

C- Confessions – Our mouths are the most powerful authority”

“Declare God’s Word.”

“You have to say what you see, until you see what you say!”

“Don’t take a new vision and shift it through an old perspective.”



“Declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,'” – Isaiah 46:10 ESV


Shayna Rattler

Shayna is a bold, courageous, life-changing child of God who helps people understand their identity and authority in Christ. Shayna rattler is the founder of a God shift movement. She is an author and speaker who empowers individuals and organizations worldwide to experience a shift that moves them into greater destiny, expectancy, and possibility. She’s passionate about helping others develop a deeper understanding of God in the identity that they have in him. Shayna has helped celebrities, influencers, military officers, political dignitaries, pastors, corporate executives, and seasoned entrepreneurs achieve personal growth and organizational excellence. She and her businesses have received multiple awards, published numerous books, and featured in over 450 media outlets. Shayna hosts a God’s shift podcast and God-Shift TV show.


A God Shift: A Divine Move From Disruption to Destiny

Higher: 5 Powerful Principles for Entrepreneurs to Reinvent Themselves and Redefine Success to Earn More 

Secrets to Landing Corporate Sponsorships: The Insider’s Playbook to Landing Large Checks from Big Companies


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Nicole Jacobsmeyer: Take Back Your Joy

Nicole Jacobsmeyer: Take Back Your Joy

Misty Phillip sits down with Nicole Jacobsmeyer to share hope and encouragement for moms struggling through grief and heartbreaking disappointments on this episode of the By His Grace podcast. We invite women to discover joy in the everyday moments of life. We also cover the importance of focusing on the present rather than dwelling on the past or wishing for a future, including practical steps to stay in the present. 

Key Takeaways

  • Topics covered in this episode:
  • Putting on a happy face while walking through hard times. 
  • Being honest about grief and sadness. 
  • We also discuss how social media can become a joy stealer when FOMO and comparison or stealing a woman’s joy and the steps she can take to recover her joy. 
  • We also discussed how service is an essential bridge from pain to purpose in the way that God can use that to help bring healing to your life.
  • God‘s plan vs. our agenda and how shifting our attitude to gratitude can impact your mindset. 
  • Confidence and contentment in Christ.

Take Back Your Joy: Fighting for Purpose When Life Is More Than You Can Handle

Have you ever been devastated by a traumatic experience and wondered, Where is God in all of this? Whatever joy you may have had seems long gone and shows no hope of returning.

You’re not alone. 

In Take Back Your Joy, Nicole Jacobsmeyer tells how she felt defeated and ill-prepared for a decade of relentless trials, from assault and depression to miscarriage and cancer.

Nicole began to doubt with a heart full of questions about the God she was raised to love. Had God given her more than she could handle? But there is always more to the story with Christ.

Take Back Your Joy gives readers renewed hope and reassurance that we’re not alone in our sufferings, doubts, and questions. We can discover a clear sense of purpose even in hard times.

Read the first chapter for free!

About Nicole Jacobsmeyer

Nicole Jacobsmeyer is passionate about helping women walk in victory, joy, and faith in the face of trials, sorrow, and suffering. Nicole and her husband have four children under seven and reside in North Carolina. Nicole spends her spare time sharing her faith and encouraging women on her blog and lifestyle website,, and her Instagram page, @nicole.jacobsmeyer.


Esther Press, an imprint of David C Cook, publishes biblical resources by and for courageous women. With a focus on transformation, Esther Press encourages and equips women to walk courageously in the light of God’s truth for such a time as this. 

Esther Press partners with ministries worldwide to equip, encourage, and disciple women. Learn more at David C Cook is a 501c3 nonprofit organization dedicated to training the global church

with leadership, discipleship, and worship resources to help Christians grow in faith and pass it along to the next generation. Read more about David C Cook and its global ministry outreach at

Amy Lowe: Life Changing Summer Camps

Amy Lowe: Life Changing Summer Camps

On this episode of the By his Grace podcast, Misty Phillip sits down with Amy Lowe, Director of WinShape Camps for Girls, to discuss the life-changing impact of summer camp in the lives of boys, girls, and families.We discuss the Winshape Foundation founded by Truett Cathy.

Key Takeaways

Camp first grade through high school. There is no technology at camp. We get the kids out in nature. No make-up at camp. Learn independence and get out of your comfort zone. They learn skills like mountain biking, calligraphy, etc. They have parties and have fun experiences, and learn about Jesus.

Bible Study theme – Space theme was pace camp studying the Gospel of John and exploring more.

If I have a problem, I need to go to the Bible for my answers.

Try Jesus. Come and see.Give Jesus a shot.Jesus is a lifeline.

Girls are in there head. They live in a mean world. Girls are feeling left out.

Amy Lowe is the Director of WinShape Camps for Girls – a summer camp for girls from 1st grade to 12th grade. Amy also oversees WinShape Camps for Families – a family camp and family weekend experience. She has a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration from Samford University and a Master of Arts in Theology from Fuller Theological Seminary. Before WinShape, Amy worked for 12 years at LifeWay Christian Resources in the areas of camping and publishing. She lives with her husband Matt and 2 kids – a pre-teen girl and an energy filled elementary school aged boy. Like most other moms her hobbies include laundry, running the robot vacuum, and unloading the dishwasher.

Matt Brown: Living in Light of Eternity

Matt Brown: Living in Light of Eternity

On this episode of the By His grace podcast, Misty Phillip has an uplifting conversation with Matt Brown, Founder of Think Eternity. They discuss the mission of think Eternity, what it means to walk in truth and loves exercising the fruit of the Spirit. Matt Brown shares powerful faith content to help people find fulfillment in God. Matt’s mission at Think Eternity through four key focuses: powerful faith content, digital missions, outreach, and impacting young influencers.

Matt Brown came to Christ at an early age. He shares one of his early memories in life was his mom leading him to the Lord, and he sensed the call to ministry at an early age. In his last year of high school, at a youth conference, he felt God speaking very specifically to him about being an evangelist. His role as an evangelist is to take the gospel’s message to people outside the church to those who need to hear it the most. Matt went to Bible college and then began to travel and preach. Later Matt founded Think Eternity to help people who don’t believe in Jesus yet are outside the church find incredible fulfillment in Jesus. To encourage people to live that abundant life that God has called them to amid the chaos of this world. 

Key Takeaways

“Well, the biggest thing obviously is sharing the scripture because there’s nothing like the word of God, and no thought I’ll ever come up with will be as good or even close to.”

“You know, being in the scripture myself and sharing that and then just allowing the Lord to speak to me about the things that are going on in my life.”

“So just through the every day of life, you know, as God just puts things in my heart, you know from his word just thoughts encouragements and just sharing those widely.”

“A lot of challenges for our generation that come with being kind of the first generation to know what to do.”

“There’s this amazing opportunity for the gospel. There’s this amazing opportunity for encouragement, and I can tell you, I don’t think the world can ever get enough encouragement, so it’s kind of sharing encouragement and hope, but also with the truth of God.” 

“The Bible very clearly defines love, not love according to our generation, not love according to this culture of that culture. 

But love, according to God’s word, is the kind that keeps no record of wrongs. It’s not self-seeking. It’s not easily angered, and you can go down the list of first Corinthians 13.”

“Not understanding this and grasping what it really means to look like Jesus, that part of that is being kind part of that is being gentle according to the fruit of the spirit and the fruit.”

“God works in our life.” 

“Influence for the sake of the truth, it gives us influence for the gospel, but it’s important not just to walk in love and joy and peace, but to carry God’s truth as well. 

“I really feel like the love is what will draw people.” 

“It’s what God is going to use to just make the gospel so sticky in people’s lives.”

“He’s calling you to something. He has a greater plan in store for you, and that’s what every single one of us needs to hear.”

Matt Brown

Matt Brown is an evangelist, author of Truth Plus Love, host of Think Eternity with Matt Brown, and founder of Think Eternity — a ministry sharing powerful faith content through podcasts, blogs, videos, outreaches, and more. Matt and his wife Michelle have four children and live near Minneapolis, Minnesota. 

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You can follow Matt at @evangelistmatt

Lisa Appelo: Life Can Be Good Again

Lisa Appelo: Life Can Be Good Again

On this episode of the By HIs Grace podcast, Misty Phillip sits down with Lisa Appelo, widow, and mother to seven amazing children. As a member of Widow Mama Collective, a Facebook community for young widows. she helps women find hope in the hard places of loss. A popular blogger, Lisa loves seeing women flourish in the strength of God’s promises.

Lisa shares the story of suddenly losing her husband, and how her life was shattered into a million pieces. Lisa shares how we can walk alongside grieving people. Whether it is the loss of a dream, or the tragic loss of a loved one. Lisa shares wisdom on what we can do, and say when others are grieving a loss.

Key Takeaways

“Nothing we can say can really comfort the way we want it too. We can’t fix them.”
Don’t say things like…
“At least you are young enough to remarry.” or “At least you’ll see them again.”
“They rush someone through their pain and try to slap on a platitude to explain it. Not saying anything is better.”
What you can do…
Offer to pray specifically for them.
Don’t discount the small practical ways you can help. There are a lot of tangible ways to walk alongside someone with grief.
“I was just so utterly dependent on God.”
Lament says..
I don’t understand, but I trust you. Through lamenting Lisa would
Cry out to the Lord. Pray. Ask hard questions. Get in the word.
How can you move forward in faith beyond fear.
We wonder if God will be faithful to us, and that is fear. Take your thoughts captive and replace the lies.

How can we re-shape our broken hearts? Sometimes we need to borrow hope.

These are places of deep Spiritual warfare.

Give yourself permission to grieve. There are no short cuts through losses in life. Active grief is exhausting. Give yourself space to grieve.


What do you do when you are suddenly navigating a life you didn’t sign up for? Lisa Appelo understands deeply. She’s experienced the raw emotions and uncertainty that come when everything falls apart. Lisa went to bed married and woke up a widow and single mom to seven children. She wrestled with impossible questions about her future–and then found life-changing answers that gave her the strength to move forward with true joy.

With compassion and rich biblical insight, Lisa will help you:

· find your footing when circumstances bring massive change;
· process hard emotions with God, who welcomes them;
· overcome paralyzing fear with three scriptural steps; and
· anchor your faith when your hope seems threadbare.

Your unexpected future may feel like Plan B, but it’s God’s purposeful Chapter Two for you as He reshapes your shattered heart. With each tender, intentional step, you’ll see you will not merely survive this, but that life can be good again.


Life Can Be Good Again: Putting Your World Back Together After Your World Falls Apart – Bethany House

Begin reading Chapter One for FREE!

Scripture References

“We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,” – 2 Corinthians 10:5 ESV

“And my God will supply every need of yours according to his riches in glory in Christ Jesus.” – Philippians 4:19 ESV

“Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.” – James 1:2-4 ESV

“For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison,  as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal.”  – 2 Corinthians 4:17-18 ESV

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Jen & AJ: Bible Study & Community

Jen & AJ: Bible Study & Community

Misty Phillip sits down with Arabah Joy and Jen Evangelista, who run Sojo Academy, an online community for Christian women. They discuss Bible Study and the importance of community. We discuss the Bible methods used in Sojo Academy. At Sojo, they combine topical, chapter, Biographical, and book studies. Their goal is to teach women to dig into the Bible for themselves. We talk about the importance of community, and the life of believers. 

Key Takeaways

Context matters when studying the scriptures!

Spend a lot of time meditating on the word. Take it word by word – phrase by phrase. 

“Bible study is not a competition.” – AJ

“The goal is to encounter God.” – AJ

“Be intentional.” – Jen

“Find a book of the Bible, and just start reading it.” -Jen

“We have to be rooted and grounded in the word” – Misty


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Jen Evangelista is married to Brad and mom to 4 pretty cool kids. She has been in ministry with her husband for over 24 years, teaching kids, college students, and women of all ages and cultures. Jen is a practicing Pediatrician. She has a passion for the local church, missions, teaching, and above all else, the Gospel. And she loves finding creative ways to dig deeper into God’s Word with other women.

Arabah Joy is married to Jackson and adoptive and biological mom to four active kids. Her 22 years in ministry include church planting, 14 years of overseas missionary service, writing, teaching, and mentoring. She especially loves sharing Bible study methods and hands-on, actionable tools so others can experience the same life-transforming power of God’s word that she has in their everyday lives


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